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hello and welcome I'm excited that I'm

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doing this uh collaborative with Chris

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later

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he is a retired F-16 that's been on the

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show a number of times and I I always

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enjoy talking to him we decided to do

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this a collaboration about the recent or

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just the other day the all domain

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anomaly resolution office the hearing

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that was held and there are two parts of

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this

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part one is over on Chris Chris's uh

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YouTube channel that's Lido files over

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uh over on YouTube and we're going to

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link each other's shows in the uh in the

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notes in the text as well as we'll put

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them

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down in a comments so you can quickly

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switch over and possibly we can even do

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like an end screen type thing that will

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uh all you have to do is Click at the

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end of the video but I suggest you start

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with Chris's and we'll flow over to here

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we're gonna we've been doing sort of a

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chronological order without further

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delay Chris welcome

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hi welcome thanks Mark Martin

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this is this has been fun yeah welcome

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to both of our channels yeah that's

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right it's fun to do a collab yeah it's

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you know it's much better than working

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alone I think getting different eyes

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different different views on the same

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thing is great thank you thank you and

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you uh I was watching your uh your

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channel when you were doing this when it

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was actually live of course it took

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forever for them to come on but uh uh

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but you had sound issues and I try to do

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this at the same the same thing you were

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doing at the about the same time and I

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could not get the sound issues worked

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out glad you did and do you want to just

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jump right in where we left off keep

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going yeah I thought it was a great

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discussion I was I was enjoying it and

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and learning so let me uh bring it up

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and let's explain what the this this is

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uh we just jumped from that uh

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spreadsheet of what nut spreadsheet but

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the chart there of uh the objects and

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and all that and this is jumping over to

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there you go yep and it's jumping over

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to this

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a video right here that he's going to go

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into which is yeah please here you hear

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the I love this part where he says next

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slide you know actually the intro is

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okay we haven't found any evidence of

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extraterrestrials

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um you know hate to break it to you guys

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but there's nothing to see there and

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then he goes to this slide and he says

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which is pretty darn interesting yeah

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look at all these you know we have all

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these different shapes and the big one

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we talk about more in the other in our

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in our actual uh interview was this

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stationary to Mach 2. this is this is

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really the the velocity there I don't

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know how you explain that so we talk

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about it more on my channel so go check

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that out but I'll just hit play here so

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you can hear him say next slide and then

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bring up the mozul

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radar returns we get intermittent radio

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returns and we get intermittent thermal

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that's what we're looking for and trying

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so I'm going to walk you through two

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cases that we've Declassified recently

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this first one is an MQ-9 in the Middle

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East observing that blow up which is an

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apparent spherical object EO sensors

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those are not IR

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so MQ-9 that's a Reaper so that's a

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large drone they were big enough to

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carry weapons and they have a you know

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that optical eye on them they can stay

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up there for many hours at a time or you

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know over 12 hours so yeah that's what

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we use most of time in Iraq in the

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Middle East you know I was in Iraq just

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for one tour back in oh uh 06 2006.

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uh and we only we didn't have that many

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predators and I knew right away that was

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the tool that we needed there right if

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you're going to be in this involved

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involved in the world I think war is a

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bad thing but you know I'm there to do a

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job if and so I think having Mass uh

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drones overhead is the best way to to

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fight this this sort of Insurgency right

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and so this is one of those drones a

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like and then comes up with this video

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um so that's what he says in there MQ-9

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you want to go ahead and click that and

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you'll see it come through the top of

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the screen there it goes and then the

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camera will slew to follow it

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you'll see it pop in and out of the

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screen field of view there

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this is essentially all of the data we

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have associated with this event from

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it is going to be virtually impossible

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to fully identify that

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just based off of that video

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yeah what did you think of that Martin

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well I think it's quite an extraordinary

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there are some places that are blanked

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you know they you know it would be a top

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secret type of situation they don't want

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uh adversaries to know exactly what the

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readings are or something like that

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possibly but also I wonder uh was it and

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probably would know uh is this an

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automatic uh sleuthing that this camera

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there was a reading that's blurred out

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that says uh the knots that this thing

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uh no to both of those

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so I'll turn down the volume here remind

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me to turn it back up

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as I play through you'll see okay so

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intersection a lot of times they'll be

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just where where our forces get attacked

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you know they've been bombed all the

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time at this intersection so chances are

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for some reason they're looking here

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maybe they they got reports that there's

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an improvised explosive device you know

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um and so they're looking in this area

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should be able to tell by how it moves

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right from when I hit play here that

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it's a person slowing it you know like

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at a keyboard okay that's what it would

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be yeah he slows it nothing is tracking

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nothing tracking this so you couldn't

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tracking situation then it would give

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more data on it yep so if if it locks on

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so I'll hit play here

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so you see that's a manual slew down

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manual slow you know you can kind of

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um to keep this thing in in the in the

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frame otherwise it would be right in the

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center you know if it was locked up I

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got it like a tiny pod will normally

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lock on it'll go right in the center

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um but you still don't know how far away

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it is yeah so if you don't know how far

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away it is you don't know what the speed

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you can just interpolate right between

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the ground and the plane because you

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know how far the plane is you know how

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fast the plane is going and you know

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your sensor what it's doing but you

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when these drones almost appear like

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they're hovering when there's they're

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looking down uh what type of speed do

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they have to stay at to keep

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yeah I mean my knowledge is from you

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know many years ago I guess about drones

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in particular but they were super slow I

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mean jokingly slow we made fun of them

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predator it was flying like less than

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100 knots you know it's like yeah yeah

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Cessna speeds or a predator actually

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to fly literally a Cessna engine that

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that is in your just your single engine

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probably flies faster yeah but your

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that's why they can stay up forever

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they're burning very little gas you know

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but they can't go very fast so they

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can't get to places

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where they weren't that useful for us we

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only had a few when I was there six or

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seven were ever born at any time you

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they weren't very we were much more

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useful we were like your quick reaction

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force to where if guys were getting

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attacked we would fly there and try and

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um lucky you know we're sending the

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Predator you know you're going to be

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waiting there a long time you're going

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to die essentially uh

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oh dear wow so what is your opinion of

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this this video

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I mean I like he said I have spent so

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much time on the go fast it reminds me

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of Go Fast looking at this you know the

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speeds are different the systems are

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different everything is different

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but it's a single Source video right

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there's no other data points that we can

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draw on

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and right I was unable to prove even

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with with go Fest I was unable to prove

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that it's not stationary exactly right

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yeah the go fast almost looked like it

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was just above water level I mean but

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from the angles but you you couldn't

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really tell but once once they lost they

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locked on on that particular video

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don't they have all the data from that

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unfortunately no because uh the

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targeting pod like I'm saying uh is just

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a visual tracker so it actually it

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actually has to get the distance from

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another source and that's why it has a

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laser um it has a laser to do distance

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ranging hmm

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uh the problem is that laser burns out

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your eyes so

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yeah yeah but no you laser ranging is

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your is your primary reference you know

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you yeah and that's unless you have

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triangulation okay the only way I know

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to passively

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uh find something or track something is

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to use some sort of triangulation so you

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have like our eyes you know our eyes

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triangulate but based off how far apart

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they are you can only really triangulate

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you only have depth of field out to I

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don't know I'm not gonna guess here but

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a few hundred meters I guess at the end

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of the day right um it's based on how

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far you can get your sensors apart

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you know if you just have if you're if

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you're only if one of your eyes is out

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right your depth perception is knocked

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down dramatically and then that's really

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the situation we're in okay we have no

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other way to range this thing we're

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basically looking at it with one eye

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um and in a targeting pod we would use a

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laser or use the radar

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I don't know if you can back it up just

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a little bit to the where they show the

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uh because uh yeah right there

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um do you think that's a true

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magnification of what they're seeing it

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looks like it is

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yeah

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um so that would have to be a spherical

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total spherical and not like some type

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of disc

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because of the angle

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um it was some type of disc or something

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like that uh you would see an odd shape

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but you're seeing perfectly round here

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so don't don't you think this is rather

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extraordinary that whatever that

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spherical thing is was traveling the way

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it was

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well that's the problem is because it

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could there's no way to prove

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that it's not just a round balloon

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halfway between the sensor and the

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ground

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oh there's no way to tell it seems like

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it's moving though it I know you're

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talking about the speed of the Drone but

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still the it seems like it's going on

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for a quite a clip if that's real time

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filming

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I see what you're saying so you're

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saying is there a way that we can prove

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but the thing is the the it's it's

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confusing because the the the camera is

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so good at locking onto the ground and

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it's called Ground stabilizing yeah

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so right now the camera is ground

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stabilized to this location

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so meaning you will it normally we hold

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like three to five miles around this in

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a circle

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um but the the sensor right now is

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definitely moving

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at at least 100 knots as I would say so

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100 miles an hour

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at the minimum so maybe because we could

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look up Reaper let me just look it up oh

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I'm just the uppering yeah meanwhile

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could you just Play that video a little

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bit just yes let me play it and I'll

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look that up and yeah you keep it

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I mean to me it seems almost impossible

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if that's real time filming for that to

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be a balloon I mean that's moving right

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along no matter if it's uh close to the

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camera or far from the camera especially

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far from the camera that would be moving

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right along

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you may there may be something there

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actually

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so this is your

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that's what it was up yes that's what

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was flying so this is your MQ-9 so this

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is a bigger Predator B so it is it's a

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little it is a predator but larger

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um so maybe they have a turbo jet engine

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looks like back here or maybe it's still

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just a Cessna engine

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but this thing's bigger and can carry

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weapons let's look at the speed on this

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thing

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there's only 300 300 plus

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and

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because they're stabilized on that

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Target on the ground or I don't know if

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you want to call it a Target but uh

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because they're stabilized on that

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as they're traveling all you see is that

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I mean you don't it doesn't it appears

366
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like they're almost sitting still but

367
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they're not really sitting still

368
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exactly the stabilization

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yeah the reaper so it has it has a jet

370
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engine turbo prop

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but yeah the original Predator only had

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uh a piston it had a basically assess an

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engine

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so this thing is flying faster did they

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actually say uh what year this was they

376
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I don't think they mentioned that do

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um I don't think it was mentioned in the

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hearings but it was right Jeremy Corbell

379
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said it was from 2015 I believe oh okay

380
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I hate it and in 2015 would they have a

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jet engine at that time

382
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yeah they would have had Reapers yeah

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um so that that tells me okay

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a speed of 220 knots that was the

385
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um so yeah I mean that stuff's part of

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their operational tactics but it's

387
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definitely going faster I would say than

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a than a normal Cessna so maybe 150 200

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knots would be my guess

390
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so

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but you bring up

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a reasonable point because

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this the good thing about this is it

394
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it's a longer video right all we got

395
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from the mosul orb was just that image

396
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right I think he may be talking over

397
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this part of it right here

398
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um you know basically saying that

399
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they're not going to explain this maybe

400
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we should play that uh audio okay let me

401
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play it here then that we've chatted

402
00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:34,019
about it and then the camera will slew

403
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to follow it

404
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you'll see it pop in and out of the

405
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screen field of view there

406
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this is essentially all of the data we

407
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have associated with this event from

408
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it is going to be virtually impossible

409
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to fully identify that

410
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just based off of that video

411
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well I will look into it Martin because

412
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that is a relatively long video and

413
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you know the Predator doesn't go like

414
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supersonic or something so

415
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yeah it is only going Max you know even

416
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maybe I can use the max speed of the

417
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Predator say 250 knots if it can get

418
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that fast

419
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and then see if it if if that is still

420
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the case that we can't prove that it's

421
00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:21,600
uh that it's not right in between

422
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,220
the only other issue is that it doesn't

423
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seem to be doing any anomalous crazy

424
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moves you know if because if it's moving

425
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anyway within the wind you know if it's

426
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within you know it could be wind can be

427
00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:37,020
up to 100 knots up at altitude yeah we

428
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,640
don't really know how high this Predator

429
00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:40,080
is he says all we have is the video

430
00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:41,700
actually they do know they have all that

431
00:17:44,210 --> 00:17:42,660
information

432
00:17:47,890 --> 00:17:44,220
so they should have that they should

433
00:17:50,450 --> 00:17:47,900
have the winds at altitude yeah

434
00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:50,460
wind direction as well because that that

435
00:17:54,350 --> 00:17:52,620
plays into it yeah so they have that

436
00:17:57,409 --> 00:17:54,360
information from the video but he says

437
00:17:59,450 --> 00:17:57,419
it will still be basically impossible

438
00:18:01,370 --> 00:17:59,460
yeah I think you could you could you

439
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:01,380
could determine a range of speeds that

440
00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:03,840
this thing is at a range of distances

441
00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:05,940
right based off that moving platform

442
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:08,460
yeah the video is kind of long enough so

443
00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:10,559
I don't know kind of interesting

444
00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:12,840
yeah it's too bad it doesn't do some

445
00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:14,880
sort of crazy maneuver there but but

446
00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:17,400
that's it for that one anything else no

447
00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:21,240
but I I do think that um he says that it

448
00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:23,340
can't be resolved and I pretty much

449
00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:25,260
agree with them you know I mean how if

450
00:18:30,590 --> 00:18:28,200
this is all the data that you have just

451
00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:30,600
just the video alone yeah that would be

452
00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:33,960
a tough one to solve not knowing what

453
00:18:42,490 --> 00:18:40,250
yeah if you can't prove it that's the

454
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:42,500
problem you know you because

455
00:18:47,330 --> 00:18:45,120
at the end of the day you can just say

456
00:18:48,049 --> 00:18:47,340
well it's probably a balloon

457
00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:48,059
um

458
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:50,100
but I'll check you know maybe I can

459
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:52,080
prove that it's going more than 150

460
00:18:56,990 --> 00:18:54,720
miles an hour or something and then yeah

461
00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:57,000
yeah it doesn't look like it though yeah

462
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,020
but I mean it is it it is good that he

463
00:19:06,529 --> 00:19:03,600
does say that you know this one is

464
00:19:09,169 --> 00:19:06,539
basically we will not know you know I

465
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:09,179
mean instead of saying it's a balloon

466
00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:13,200
exactly that is nice I agree yeah

467
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:16,860
yeah so you want to move on to uh is

468
00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:19,679
keeping that as part of that

469
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group of 52 percent

470
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to see what are the similarities what

471
00:19:29,570 --> 00:19:27,539
are the trends across all of these do we

472
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see these in a particular distribution

473
00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:32,460
do they all behave the same or not

474
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as we get more data

475
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we will be able to go back and look at

476
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these in a fuller context

477
00:19:44,930 --> 00:19:42,720
how are we going to get more data we are

478
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working with the joint staff to issue

479
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guidance to all the services and

480
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commands that will then establish what

481
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are the reporting requirements the

482
00:19:55,970 --> 00:19:53,700
timeliness and all of the data that is

483
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required to be delivered to us and

484
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retained from all the associated sensors

485
00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:01,860
that historically hasn't been the case

486
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and it's been happenstance that data has

487
00:20:12,409 --> 00:20:10,610
okay

488
00:20:14,210 --> 00:20:12,419
what do you think of as data collection

489
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explanation when he talks through his

490
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processes

491
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I think it I think it makes sense you

492
00:20:24,409 --> 00:20:21,120
know I mean the the one part uh we we

493
00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:24,419
touched on in the last uh video that you

494
00:20:28,610 --> 00:20:26,520
and I did together I thought about and

495
00:20:30,350 --> 00:20:28,620
wanted to address a little bit so he

496
00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:30,360
said you know if it ever

497
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,140
uh shows basically or hints to the

498
00:20:38,990 --> 00:20:36,240
possibility of extraterrestrial will

499
00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:39,000
pass it along to NASA and it kind of you

500
00:20:44,270 --> 00:20:41,940
know is is that the uh is is that where

501
00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:44,280
it's killed or do you I mean it would be

502
00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:46,200
nice if you pass along to NASA then

503
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:48,840
we'll decide whether we'll you know

504
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:50,400
release it to the public or something

505
00:20:55,789 --> 00:20:53,520
like that that's a question I have like

506
00:20:58,610 --> 00:20:55,799
um if if that was ever found would we

507
00:21:01,010 --> 00:20:58,620
ever know if if it was ever discovered

508
00:21:02,330 --> 00:21:01,020
that it was blatantly extraterrestrial

509
00:21:04,250 --> 00:21:02,340
somehow

510
00:21:06,169 --> 00:21:04,260
would we ever know

511
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:06,179
would we ever be

512
00:21:12,409 --> 00:21:10,140
uh you know privy to that information

513
00:21:14,510 --> 00:21:12,419
yeah it seems like his his way of

514
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,520
looking at it in probably the right ways

515
00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:16,320
to

516
00:21:20,330 --> 00:21:19,080
can we prove it's mundane

517
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:20,340
all right yeah

518
00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:21,840
and that's kind of where he ended on

519
00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:23,460
that last video is we won't be able to

520
00:21:27,049 --> 00:21:24,660
resolve this

521
00:21:28,610 --> 00:21:27,059
yeah so I kind of see where he's when he

522
00:21:30,409 --> 00:21:28,620
says it's somebody else's problem is

523
00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:30,419
they're gonna try and review it okay

524
00:21:35,870 --> 00:21:32,100
this is law enforcement

525
00:21:38,930 --> 00:21:35,880
uh this is for military

526
00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:38,940
um okay this is for NASA because we have

527
00:21:42,890 --> 00:21:40,740
no idea so maybe that's

528
00:21:45,169 --> 00:21:42,900
that's the somebody else's problem that

529
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,179
we want is okay now we'll send these and

530
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:48,000
that'll be the the filter processes it

531
00:21:51,289 --> 00:21:49,440
goes through them they can't figure it

532
00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:51,299
out okay now they'll send it to NASA so

533
00:21:56,810 --> 00:21:53,400
maybe that's what we have to keep an eye

534
00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:56,820
out for yeah and there's also it seems

535
00:22:01,010 --> 00:21:58,020
like there's plenty of ways they can

536
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:01,020
kill you know I mean you know kill the

537
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:05,159
movement forward to us finding out

538
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,460
and uh you know the last in the last

539
00:22:12,529 --> 00:22:10,320
show we discussed the Tic Tac I mean

540
00:22:15,049 --> 00:22:12,539
that to me that's

541
00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:15,059
that's the one of the big ones because

542
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,220
they have the you know they have the

543
00:22:21,230 --> 00:22:19,919
data I I think they should have all the

544
00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:21,240
data on that

545
00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:23,880
you know those bricks when some there

546
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:25,380
are those databricks went somewhere and

547
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:29,760
and get through the government so uh

548
00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:32,640
uh uh I I don't know what do you think

549
00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:35,580
that the the panel

550
00:22:39,770 --> 00:22:37,799
these people will have access to all

551
00:22:41,930 --> 00:22:39,780
these things so do you think somehow you

552
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:41,940
know the son of conspiratorial but do

553
00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:43,679
you think somehow some of the evidence

554
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,419
would not be able to be accessed uh you

555
00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:51,360
know I mean these people are they have a

556
00:22:55,850 --> 00:22:54,840
high security classification so I mean

557
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,860
you would think they would be able to

558
00:23:00,770 --> 00:22:57,600
get access to anything they want when it

559
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,930
what do you think about that

560
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:04,799
uh you got to unmute

561
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:09,830
yeah sorry

562
00:23:14,210 --> 00:23:12,960
yeah yeah I think that um

563
00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:14,220
they're not going to be able to act

564
00:23:17,630 --> 00:23:15,780
there must be issues you know

565
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:17,640
classification

566
00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:21,360
was it was a hindrance at every level

567
00:23:25,730 --> 00:23:23,700
of military operations you know it's

568
00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:25,740
just such an issue and the higher you

569
00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:28,260
get in classification now is is a thing

570
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,659
called need to know right because even

571
00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:32,880
if you have a top secret clearance

572
00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:35,400
there's no reason for you as an army

573
00:23:41,630 --> 00:23:37,980
grunt to know you know how my top secret

574
00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:41,640
airplane works in the Air Force so even

575
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,380
though you have that classification

576
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:45,120
capability right you're trustable to

577
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,080
that level

578
00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:48,000
still they want to minimize all of the

579
00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:50,460
information that that is out there

580
00:23:54,169 --> 00:23:52,620
so for sure it like she mentioned at the

581
00:23:55,490 --> 00:23:54,179
beginning is there they've had huge

582
00:23:58,909 --> 00:23:55,500
stigma issues

583
00:24:02,810 --> 00:23:58,919
else you know basically getting the

584
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,820
money uh getting the system set up

585
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:05,039
um getting it you know the people there

586
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:08,400
essentially then chances are that it's

587
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,200
still going to affect you know

588
00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:12,419
everything else so I think the stigma is

589
00:24:17,090 --> 00:24:15,240
is a big blocker there

590
00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:17,100
right and uh

591
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:19,380
we didn't really in the last video we

592
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:23,100
didn't really touch on uh Joni Ernst

593
00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:26,700
Senator Joni Ernst um from I think it's

594
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:29,280
Iowa I do believe

595
00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:32,400
yeah Iowa uh representative Republican

596
00:24:36,770 --> 00:24:33,900
representative

597
00:24:38,029 --> 00:24:36,780
um yeah she's she seemed

598
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:38,039
like

599
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:42,720
totally focused on the uh adversary side

600
00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:47,039
of this whole thing and uh you know I

601
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:48,539
don't know if you noticed that but every

602
00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:51,059
every time she spoke it was all about

603
00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:53,700
you know China or Russia our adversaries

604
00:24:59,210 --> 00:24:56,700
and uh I don't know if we can if we can

605
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,220
get to that at any point

606
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,200
um I don't know if you can see that

607
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,080
oh let's see um is there opener opening

608
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:06,720
remarks so okay yeah let's hear that

609
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:08,640
Pearsons are pretty much spot on I think

610
00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:11,940
to what she wanted yeah testimony today

611
00:25:16,490 --> 00:25:14,760
I'll keep these remarks very brief so

612
00:25:18,890 --> 00:25:16,500
that we have maximum time for your

613
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:18,900
briefing uh the recent Downing of the

614
00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:20,640
Chinese surveillance surveillance

615
00:25:24,409 --> 00:25:22,140
balloon and three other objects

616
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,419
underscores the need for domain

617
00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:27,360
awareness adversaries like China and

618
00:25:32,690 --> 00:25:29,640
Russia are working to hold U.S interests

619
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:32,700
including our homeland at risk that's

620
00:25:37,789 --> 00:25:35,820
why your testimony is so important and I

621
00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:37,799
so look forward to a progress update on

622
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:40,260
the establishment of your office as

623
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,940
members know your office evolved from

624
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:43,919
the navy-led unidentified aerial

625
00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:46,799
phenomena task force to the all-domain

626
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:49,260
anomalous resolution office known as

627
00:25:54,850 --> 00:25:52,080
Arrow Dr Kirkpatrick your extensive

628
00:25:58,370 --> 00:25:54,860
background in science and technology

629
00:26:00,110 --> 00:25:58,380
research and development and space makes

630
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,120
you well suited to discuss these

631
00:26:05,149 --> 00:26:02,820
emerging challenges is my priority is

632
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:05,159
that we understand the full range of

633
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:08,460
threats posed by our adversaries in all

634
00:26:13,549 --> 00:26:10,799
domains that is what the Joint Force

635
00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:13,559
needs to be prepared to fight and win in

636
00:26:17,870 --> 00:26:15,720
defense of our nation this committee

637
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:17,880
needs to know about Chinese or Russian

638
00:26:23,090 --> 00:26:20,640
advanced technology programs to exploit

639
00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:23,100
our vulnerabilities and it needs to know

640
00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:25,620
whether your office along with the IC

641
00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:28,020
has detected potential Chinese or

642
00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:30,600
Russian capabilities to surveil or

643
00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:33,240
attack us finally we need to ensure

644
00:26:39,769 --> 00:26:35,960
efficient interagency coordination

645
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:39,779
multiple elements of the dod and IC own

646
00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:43,200
a piece of this mission to add value

647
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:46,140
arrows efforts cannot be redundant with

648
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:48,600
others thank you again we look forward

649
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:51,360
to your testimony

650
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:53,220
yeah and she has a question later on

651
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,640
yeah now I can't disagree with what she

652
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,520
is saying in any type of way but uh I

653
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:01,200
think she's pretty much laser focused

654
00:27:05,930 --> 00:27:03,659
that whatever it is people are

655
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:05,940
witnessing is you know adversarial

656
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:08,820
instead of you know looking at what are

657
00:27:15,289 --> 00:27:13,380
the other possibilities of it you know

658
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,299
that kind of that's what stands out with

659
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:17,760
missed Rosen

660
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:20,940
Rosen uh yeah she was uh the other uh

661
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:23,220
Senator yeah can we pull up that yeah

662
00:27:27,169 --> 00:27:24,480
part of the video I need a little

663
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:27,179
refresher on that yeah there she is yeah

664
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:29,039
all of these other things like I said

665
00:27:32,510 --> 00:27:30,539
follow up on the authorities your

666
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,520
methodologies the data collection they

667
00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:35,039
can help us in other ways but how do you

668
00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:36,779
think we can develop a sustainable

669
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:40,020
affordable response to uaps where we

670
00:27:43,970 --> 00:27:41,520
need to

671
00:27:46,669 --> 00:27:43,980
um that may that will definitely violate

672
00:27:49,010 --> 00:27:46,679
our airspace not may definitely violate

673
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:49,020
our airspace every chance that they can

674
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,640
get because there are adversaries they

675
00:27:54,769 --> 00:27:52,559
want this information so what do you

676
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:54,779
think some cost-effective measures might

677
00:27:58,730 --> 00:27:56,700
be that we can

678
00:28:00,049 --> 00:27:58,740
um get what we need out of that or take

679
00:28:02,210 --> 00:28:00,059
them down whatever's appropriate

680
00:28:04,669 --> 00:28:02,220
whatever the appropriate measure is uh

681
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,679
pausing here so she's this question was

682
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:06,480
she talked about we shot down the three

683
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,340
balloons yeah and a half a million

684
00:28:12,830 --> 00:28:09,919
dollar missile yeah

685
00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:12,840
I mean this is our Expendable assets you

686
00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:15,380
know we would shoot you know

687
00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:18,059
she's talking about an affordable way

688
00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:20,760
where else in defense do we worry about

689
00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:23,340
affordable ways we spend more on defense

690
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,320
than any other country uh you know

691
00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:27,600
several countries combined uh I mean

692
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:30,840
they do a lot to to minimize it um I

693
00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:33,360
mean I I agree you know I think you

694
00:28:38,810 --> 00:28:34,440
don't want to

695
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,820
your method you know to shoot these

696
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:40,799
expensive missiles I'm sure they're

697
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:42,840
talking about it all in all the fighter

698
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,020
bars Etc to using cheaper Rockets or

699
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,760
guns or something

700
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,679
yeah especially when something is just

701
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:50,960
sitting there

702
00:28:56,750 --> 00:28:53,820
such an easy target you know I mean

703
00:28:58,909 --> 00:28:56,760
that's right it's not so easy

704
00:29:00,830 --> 00:28:58,919
um I'm not surprised that the missile

705
00:29:03,529 --> 00:29:00,840
missed or didn't fuse on the first one

706
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:03,539
you know just because they're fuse you

707
00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:04,860
don't want it you don't want it to be so

708
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:06,600
easy to fuse that it just fuses off

709
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:08,820
anything oh that's right I mean it could

710
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:10,980
that'd be very dangerous could cause uh

711
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,600
major problems I know they waited till

712
00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:14,880
it was over the water you know which was

713
00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:16,440
a smart move

714
00:29:21,769 --> 00:29:18,840
well also you know everything in the

715
00:29:24,049 --> 00:29:21,779
military again is considered uh you want

716
00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:24,059
to make it adversary proof

717
00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:26,520
so that's why you know military-grade

718
00:29:31,130 --> 00:29:28,919
equipment it may not it'll be bigger and

719
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:31,140
bulkier in everything but it should work

720
00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:33,960
against you know enemy action is is the

721
00:29:39,049 --> 00:29:36,840
idea so if your fuse is so easy to set

722
00:29:41,470 --> 00:29:39,059
off then they can exploit that you know

723
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,480
and set off your fuses

724
00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:44,399
would also be very bad so let's see how

725
00:29:50,029 --> 00:29:48,120
he answers here okay sounds good so that

726
00:29:51,649 --> 00:29:50,039
that is actually wrapped into the plan

727
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:51,659
ORD that we're working with joint step

728
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:54,179
to send out what are the commands need

729
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:56,640
from both a capabilities perspective for

730
00:30:02,990 --> 00:29:59,760
kinetic and non-kinetic engagements what

731
00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:03,000
are the response functions of the of the

732
00:30:09,230 --> 00:30:07,320
particular wings or or navy uh what have

733
00:30:12,169 --> 00:30:09,240
you and then

734
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:12,179
what authorities do they need so one of

735
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:13,740
the one of the challenges that we've

736
00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:15,840
seen is is you know there's an

737
00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:18,600
authorities issues with the with the

738
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:21,720
owners operators of those ranges that

739
00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:22,980
they need to work through and we're

740
00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:27,059
working that with joint staff and OSD so

741
00:30:32,269 --> 00:30:30,059
the big picture we need to do all that

742
00:30:33,889 --> 00:30:32,279
if you want to get down to the specifics

743
00:30:36,289 --> 00:30:33,899
for you know there are non-kinetic

744
00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:36,299
options to engage pretty much everything

745
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:37,799
yeah

746
00:30:42,889 --> 00:30:40,500
so non-kinetic again not you're not

747
00:30:46,610 --> 00:30:42,899
shooting it but you're going to

748
00:30:48,409 --> 00:30:46,620
you know minimize its effects or you

749
00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:48,419
know if it's an electronic system you'll

750
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:50,460
jam it right you're not you're not

751
00:30:57,470 --> 00:30:53,460
killing it but you are affecting it

752
00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:01,549
right so um do you want to move on to

753
00:31:07,549 --> 00:31:03,960
this particular uh

754
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:07,559
I I think in closing about the open

755
00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:10,020
hearings

756
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:12,380
um you know I mean what they have

757
00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:14,700
are they going to allow the access to

758
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:17,460
the public is is basically

759
00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:19,320
you know the I think I find that

760
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:21,419
interesting myself

761
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,059
yeah hugely interesting yeah that was uh

762
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640
and I wrote that down as as a big you

763
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,799
know one of my main notes is Jilla brand

764
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:30,840
here asking about this NDA and I think

765
00:31:33,289 --> 00:31:32,220
it really highlights the relationship

766
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:33,299
between

767
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:35,700
Jilla brand and Kirkpatrick

768
00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:38,159
and yeah and was pretty impressed with

769
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:39,779
Jilla brand I think it seems like she's

770
00:31:42,830 --> 00:31:41,820
she's definitely on the case so this is

771
00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:42,840
where she's asking about the

772
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:45,720
non-disclosure agreements and also she

773
00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:49,679
seems upset that they were they needed a

774
00:31:54,110 --> 00:31:52,440
system to do public discourse so when

775
00:31:56,029 --> 00:31:54,120
people actually have

776
00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:56,039
they want to bring forward testimony

777
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:57,659
that they have a place to go and

778
00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:59,100
actually give the testimony and it

779
00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,380
sounds like that doesn't exist

780
00:32:06,289 --> 00:32:03,659
so she was she has iconic Warfare

781
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:06,299
whether it's you know Laser Technology

782
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:08,700
that's where this data having a good

783
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:11,520
data collection Predictive Analytics you

784
00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:14,399
can perform make some assumptions and

785
00:32:18,769 --> 00:32:16,200
possibilities that's right and we will

786
00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:18,779
inform uh recommendations back to the

787
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:20,940
department on here's what could work

788
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:22,919
here's what we've seen work here's what

789
00:32:25,789 --> 00:32:23,940
doesn't work

790
00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:25,799
thank you so much thank you madam chair

791
00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:28,200
I appreciate it thank you very much

792
00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:30,360
um I just wanted to just talk a little

793
00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:32,039
bit about your Logistics who you report

794
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,980
to how that's going uh whether you need

795
00:32:38,450 --> 00:32:36,960
different reporting lines

796
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,460
um by Congressional legislation your

797
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:40,559
office is administratively located with

798
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:42,120
the office of the undersecretary of

799
00:32:45,889 --> 00:32:43,980
defense for intelligence security but

800
00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:45,899
you're not substantively subordinate to

801
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:47,820
the under secretary rather you are a

802
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,440
direct report to the deputy secretary

803
00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:51,120
are you taking Direction directly from

804
00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:52,919
the deputy secretary are you able to

805
00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:55,620
meet and brief the deputy secretary

806
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,860
um is the office of USD ins

807
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,960
um working with you to have the right

808
00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:02,760
framework

809
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:08,460
so USD ins and the I currently report to

810
00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:11,520
USD ins

811
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:18,409
the plan for how they're going to

812
00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:25,190
DOD and dni are working through that now

813
00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:28,440
I'd have to refer you back to USD ins on

814
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:35,570
U.S defense intelligence security so do

815
00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:37,320
I need to update your reporting

816
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:39,059
structure in the next defense bill or is

817
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:40,320
this something that you think will work

818
00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:41,940
its way out or does it need further

819
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:43,620
Clarity I think they're planning on

820
00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:45,480
coming back to you with an answer on

821
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,360
what that plan is and I think at that

822
00:33:51,769 --> 00:33:50,159
time that will inform

823
00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:51,779
what you want to do

824
00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:53,340
okay thank you

825
00:33:59,870 --> 00:33:56,760
that was interesting so

826
00:34:01,130 --> 00:33:59,880
um as you know Dr Kirkpatrick Congress

827
00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:01,140
has mandated that your office

828
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,820
established a discoverable and

829
00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:05,039
accessible electronic method for

830
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:07,500
potential Witnesses of UAP incidents and

831
00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:10,320
potential participants in government UAP

832
00:34:13,849 --> 00:34:12,119
related activities to contact your

833
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,859
office and tell their stories

834
00:34:16,810 --> 00:34:15,599
Congress will also set up a process

835
00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:16,820
whereby people

836
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:19,320
subject to non-disclosure agreements

837
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:20,879
preventing them from disclosing what

838
00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:22,139
they may have witnessed or participated

839
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:24,540
in could tell you what they know that

840
00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:26,040
risk of Retribution from the or

841
00:34:30,169 --> 00:34:28,619
violation of their ndas have you

842
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:30,179
submitted a public-facing website

843
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:31,800
product for approval to your superiors

844
00:34:37,129 --> 00:34:34,500
and how long has it been under review

845
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:37,139
that that's that public discourse so it

846
00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:38,520
seems like a pretty poignant question

847
00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:40,080
there about

848
00:34:47,329 --> 00:34:43,800
I have we submitted the first version of

849
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:50,270
okay have an estimate from them when

850
00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:51,960
they will respond and when you'll have

851
00:34:57,950 --> 00:34:56,040
feedback on that no I don't okay we will

852
00:34:59,570 --> 00:34:57,960
Author a letter asking for that timely

853
00:35:02,329 --> 00:34:59,580
response

854
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:02,339
um to your superiors oh

855
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:04,680
when when do you expect that you will

856
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:07,500
establish a public-facing discoverable

857
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:10,560
um an access portal for people to use to

858
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,040
contact your office as the law requires

859
00:35:20,270 --> 00:35:17,280
so I would like to First say thank you

860
00:35:22,730 --> 00:35:20,280
all very much for referring the

861
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,740
witnesses that you have thus far to us I

862
00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:25,200
appreciate that we've brought in nearly

863
00:35:29,810 --> 00:35:27,320
two dozen so far

864
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:29,820
that was amazing statement you know when

865
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:31,500
he said that were you surprised by that

866
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,760
Martin yeah yeah uh yeah because I it's

867
00:35:40,490 --> 00:35:38,160
something I didn't know before yeah

868
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:40,500
definitely interesting yeah I guess we

869
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,880
heard the rumors I'll continue here and

870
00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:44,160
see what he says and yeah very uh

871
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,380
helpful I'd ask that you continue to do

872
00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:49,040
that until we have an approved plan

873
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:52,260
we have a multi-phased approach for

874
00:36:02,930 --> 00:36:00,710
no uh socializing and have submitted for

875
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,940
approval

876
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:04,400
sometime

877
00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:06,900
and once that happens then we should be

878
00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:09,420
able to push all that out and get uh get

879
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,700
this a little more automated great

880
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:13,680
um what I would ask though is as you all

881
00:36:18,829 --> 00:36:16,560
continue to refer to us and refer

882
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:18,839
witnesses to us I'd appreciate if you do

883
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:22,320
that please try to prioritize the ones

884
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:24,180
that you want to do because we do have a

885
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:24,920
small

886
00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:28,140
research staff dealing with that

887
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:29,820
thank you

888
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:32,820
um and and well let's see if it goes any

889
00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:34,140
further let's see our next question here

890
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:36,300
then do you have any uh plans for public

891
00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:38,040
engagement that you want to share now

892
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:40,020
that you think it's important that the

893
00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:42,599
public knows what the plan is

894
00:36:48,190 --> 00:36:45,480
so we have a uh

895
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:48,200
a number of public engagement

896
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:50,640
recommendations according to our

897
00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:53,760
strategic plan and in public engagement

898
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:55,740
does that mean a hearing is that what

899
00:37:01,010 --> 00:36:58,920
she's I'm not she's referring to not

900
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:01,020
specific hmm

901
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:02,520
that's kind of the impression I got

902
00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:04,260
right she just asked about the witnesses

903
00:37:07,130 --> 00:37:05,640
yeah

904
00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:07,140
um he knows what she's talking about

905
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,780
obviously and so he says yeah thanks for

906
00:37:14,329 --> 00:37:11,940
24 Witnesses make sure you prioritize

907
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:14,339
the ones that you want to do

908
00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:16,140
and then she says do you have any public

909
00:37:20,569 --> 00:37:17,940
engagements coming out do you have any

910
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:20,579
public engagements um and late and I'm

911
00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:22,200
not sure exactly if he mentions it here

912
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:24,839
but he mentions about the report is that

913
00:37:29,569 --> 00:37:27,000
they had to move up the report that was

914
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:29,579
originally due October 31st the annual

915
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:31,140
report they had to move it up to June or

916
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,160
July

917
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:35,040
yes I just feel like this I get the

918
00:37:38,329 --> 00:37:36,660
impression that there's going to be

919
00:37:40,609 --> 00:37:38,339
public engagements meaning these

920
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:40,619
testimonies or Witnesses

921
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:42,420
and I get the feeling that's going to

922
00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:43,680
happen in June or July I don't know

923
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,020
what's your take on that yeah I mean

924
00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:48,000
that's what it it seems like

925
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:49,380
um you know the only thing we can do I

926
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,579
mean it was so

927
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,040
unusual the way this one came up like

928
00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:54,800
all of a sudden it just popped up

929
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,660
everywhere like in just a few days just

930
00:38:01,490 --> 00:37:59,760
couldn't be a hearing and I said on my

931
00:38:03,050 --> 00:38:01,500
show the other night like hey can anyone

932
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:03,060
help me where do I find this I couldn't

933
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:05,160
find anything and sure enough you know

934
00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:09,240
people sent uh so one of the things that

935
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:11,099
kind of

936
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:14,220
was extraordinary a couple of things as

937
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:16,980
somewhere in there he talks about the

938
00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:19,619
government's historical UAP records and

939
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,300
I think that and if you put that

940
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,280
together with the testimonies that they

941
00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:25,920
have I know that Robert Salas from the

942
00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:28,200
1967 maelstrom

943
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:31,020
uh you know when they the UFO shut down

944
00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:35,280
the uh the missile Warheads they're

945
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:36,900
independent that are independently

946
00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:38,820
operated that's that's such an

947
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:40,520
extraordinary

948
00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:44,400
uh situation back in 1967

949
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:47,940
and you know they what are they saying

950
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,380
about that I would like to know behind

951
00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:51,599
closed doors uh what they would be

952
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:53,940
saying about that in particular National

953
00:38:59,450 --> 00:38:56,640
Security right there I mean

954
00:39:01,550 --> 00:38:59,460
you know they're you know they're there

955
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:01,560
you know Bob sauce been going there for

956
00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:04,560
years yeah 24 Witnesses you know I was

957
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:05,940
trying to think like who's on that list

958
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:07,680
you know yeah

959
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:10,560
uh be quite interesting and then who's

960
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,420
going to get to you know are we ever

961
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:14,160
going to get to see those testimonies or

962
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,480
is it all going to be

963
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:17,700
you know behind closed doors classified

964
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:19,980
secret hearings

965
00:39:23,210 --> 00:39:21,900
yeah and someone wrote me this and I

966
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:23,220
don't know if it's an email they're

967
00:39:30,349 --> 00:39:27,599
saying Dr Kirkpatrick himself is a UFO

968
00:39:32,990 --> 00:39:30,359
witness did you hear that

969
00:39:35,089 --> 00:39:33,000
no I've never heard that oh well I don't

970
00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:35,099
I I couldn't find any information on

971
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:37,020
that it's just something no I mean he

972
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:41,160
seems like a he seems like a skeptic

973
00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:44,880
yeah but scientific skeptic I mean it

974
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:48,180
I'm ha reasonably happy with with him so

975
00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:49,740
far you know I'm happy he's out there he

976
00:39:54,349 --> 00:39:52,740
seems like he's gonna do the work do the

977
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,359
scientific work to make it happen and

978
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,400
that's what we want right I mean we

979
00:40:02,630 --> 00:39:59,280
can't yeah we can't be expecting them to

980
00:40:04,609 --> 00:40:02,640
give us UFO unless it's a guaranteed

981
00:40:06,829 --> 00:40:04,619
certainty right at least this guy right

982
00:40:11,569 --> 00:40:06,839
if there is UFOs in the government then

983
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:11,579
it's it is so deep that he's not gonna

984
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,760
just know about it you know he's he's

985
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:16,560
not going to be briefed on it

986
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,400
so yeah which uh always seems to bring

987
00:40:24,890 --> 00:40:22,560
us back to square one when it comes to

988
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:24,900
things like this uh one of the things he

989
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:27,780
he mentions uh he casually says or the

990
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,960
extreme theories of extraterrestrials

991
00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:32,640
um you know I mean

992
00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:34,760
I don't think it's such an extreme

993
00:40:42,109 --> 00:40:39,480
Theory when uh the laws are defined I

994
00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:42,119
mean physics laws are defined you know

995
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:44,520
in a lot of these these cases but

996
00:40:48,890 --> 00:40:46,200
um he does say we don't have any

997
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:48,900
credible evidence so I guess you can use

998
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:51,300
that uh as you know maybe it doesn't

999
00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:54,780
they don't have any hard data but um but

1000
00:40:59,210 --> 00:40:57,540
I I wouldn't call it extreme myself I

1001
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,220
would just consider one of the theories

1002
00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:00,720
not does it have to be the extreme

1003
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:03,300
Theory but I guess that goes back to the

1004
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:08,030
the

1005
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,920
in general yeah I think without a doubt

1006
00:41:15,290 --> 00:41:13,200
she mentioned it at the beginning the

1007
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:15,300
stigma is still an issue

1008
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,320
yeah I think it is and uh

1009
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:21,839
the other way the other thing I found

1010
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:23,460
really interesting somewhere along the

1011
00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:26,339
line he mentions that there may be a

1012
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:30,140
possibility of to have a smartly

1013
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,140
crowdsourced uh evidence and but I think

1014
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,960
that would be opening the door you know

1015
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:38,640
they have to very carefully open the

1016
00:41:43,069 --> 00:41:40,140
door because they're gonna there's gonna

1017
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:43,079
be the flood floodgates you know that's

1018
00:41:47,150 --> 00:41:44,460
right he did mention that right at the

1019
00:41:48,770 --> 00:41:47,160
end didn't he yeah yeah

1020
00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:48,780
I don't know if you if there's any other

1021
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,320
part of this you wanna you wanna play

1022
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,720
those are the main sections um you know

1023
00:41:59,569 --> 00:41:57,119
I covered the whole hearings on my on my

1024
00:42:01,370 --> 00:41:59,579
channel yeah already just if people want

1025
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:01,380
to watch through the beginning actually

1026
00:42:04,250 --> 00:42:03,180
I did I missed so I wanted to play it

1027
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:04,260
here but

1028
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,540
I thought yeah Kirsten gillibrand I was

1029
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:09,359
impressed by by her she seems like she's

1030
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:11,880
she's on board knows she's got this

1031
00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:14,040
notebook I mean yeah I think that's who

1032
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,440
you want I think we want yeah I'm I'm

1033
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:18,720
happy her and and other Senators like

1034
00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:19,859
her

1035
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:21,540
yeah keeping track of this you know she

1036
00:42:25,849 --> 00:42:23,940
seems like she's on top of it right yeah

1037
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:25,859
I noticed the handwritten notebook there

1038
00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:29,040
too yeah coming free I don't know yeah

1039
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:31,560
that's pretty good well I guess we could

1040
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:33,540
call this a more or less a wrap you know

1041
00:42:37,790 --> 00:42:35,880
overall like this one in closing you

1042
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:37,800
know overall you know I've had a lot of

1043
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:40,800
people very disappointed in uh you know

1044
00:42:45,770 --> 00:42:43,920
the the situation of this hearing and

1045
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,780
just saying you know it's uh it's more

1046
00:42:49,210 --> 00:42:47,040
of the same

1047
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,220
you know blurring the lines and all that

1048
00:42:54,770 --> 00:42:51,839
uh I don't know what do you what is your

1049
00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:54,780
uh uh I heard someone say that uh they

1050
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:58,260
did not uh disappoint us to disappoint

1051
00:43:04,609 --> 00:43:02,160
you know but I mean I I think a lot of

1052
00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:04,619
people that may be watching this may

1053
00:43:08,510 --> 00:43:06,839
think oh you know we want we want to

1054
00:43:10,970 --> 00:43:08,520
know evidence of extraterrestrial I

1055
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,980
think we just have to be patient with

1056
00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:12,960
this and I think it's better than not

1057
00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:15,300
having anything I mean it's yeah I mean

1058
00:43:19,609 --> 00:43:17,220
they did not deliver anything like this

1059
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:19,619
in the first hearing you know the first

1060
00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:22,260
thing was hey this is a joke you know we

1061
00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:24,180
don't know why we're here

1062
00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:26,520
yeah we're doing what you wanted

1063
00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:28,740
um so for me I've seen a total

1064
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:30,420
turnaround you know this hearing was not

1065
00:43:34,849 --> 00:43:32,700
like the last one you know the last one

1066
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,859
was kind of a dog and pony show and this

1067
00:43:38,089 --> 00:43:36,480
one was more of you know I liked it it

1068
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:38,099
was in a smaller room

1069
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,260
here's our questions why aren't you you

1070
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:43,440
know fully funded you know why haven't

1071
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:46,200
you created the Discord option that we

1072
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,400
said you would

1073
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,440
uh one of the issues and he said hey I

1074
00:43:53,329 --> 00:43:51,119
turned in I turned in my homework and

1075
00:43:55,609 --> 00:43:53,339
they just haven't let me you know they

1076
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:55,619
haven't approved it so it seems like

1077
00:43:59,870 --> 00:43:58,200
they're kind of getting you know I don't

1078
00:44:03,230 --> 00:43:59,880
have much experience I haven't been in

1079
00:44:06,170 --> 00:44:03,240
this game for for that long you know but

1080
00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:06,180
they showed a full video you know yeah

1081
00:44:11,089 --> 00:44:09,300
no I like I like this video uh I think

1082
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,099
it's really interesting it doesn't mean

1083
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,680
that uh you know it's it's

1084
00:44:19,309 --> 00:44:15,839
extraterrestal it's just a great

1085
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:19,319
a great video that we'll be seeing

1086
00:44:25,370 --> 00:44:21,060
um we're all getting tired of looking at

1087
00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:25,380
the gimbal yeah over and over again uh

1088
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:27,540
yeah I mean for me I can analyze this

1089
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:29,400
you know I have something to work with

1090
00:44:35,089 --> 00:44:32,160
like there's some data that that idea

1091
00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:35,099
you had is not so bad you know

1092
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:37,260
um is there a way to maybe nail it down

1093
00:44:40,970 --> 00:44:39,599
he says it's impossible but at least we

1094
00:44:43,130 --> 00:44:40,980
can try like we have something to try

1095
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,140
with and we didn't even talk about the

1096
00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:46,079
uh the next video which was this one oh

1097
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:49,020
yeah and it's yeah explained but it does

1098
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:50,460
look pretty extraordinary when you're

1099
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,910
this was a uh you know I would think

1100
00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:00,720
they would see the transponder right off

1101
00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:03,060
the fat right off the bat and just you

1102
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:05,160
know say oh oh yeah that's what that was

1103
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,380
yes you know I mean Southeast UAP

1104
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,359
observed with the parent wake likely

1105
00:45:14,270 --> 00:45:11,760
resolved as commercial airliner

1106
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:14,280
and video compression artifact so this

1107
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,079
is what they say it's resolved at yeah

1108
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:21,119
that was the same as the the same as the

1109
00:45:27,230 --> 00:45:25,020
Baghdad Phantom UAP it had these kind of

1110
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:27,240
um signatures yeah the same structure

1111
00:45:32,329 --> 00:45:29,640
behind it and so that's what made me

1112
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:32,339
think it was also a sensor if you look

1113
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:33,540
here

1114
00:45:38,329 --> 00:45:35,460
uh might be tough to see but you have

1115
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,339
you can actually see there's little gaps

1116
00:45:44,030 --> 00:45:40,800
but they're just the size they're the

1117
00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:44,040
same size as the actual object itself

1118
00:45:49,250 --> 00:45:46,619
so that's why yeah it does seem like

1119
00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:49,260
it's a it feels like a sensor artifact

1120
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:50,760
[Music]

1121
00:45:55,849 --> 00:45:53,040
interesting maybe I can find the if we

1122
00:45:57,770 --> 00:45:55,859
look at the Baghdad Phantom real quick

1123
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,780
and you know you're talking earlier

1124
00:46:03,230 --> 00:45:59,760
about the filters you know they changed

1125
00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:03,240
filters or now you know they have the

1126
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,859
more data they get now from they're

1127
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,000
seeing things that they didn't see

1128
00:46:12,530 --> 00:46:07,920
before because of the changing of the

1129
00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:12,540
filters and the floor videos are uh and

1130
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,700
you know the the more new equipment it

1131
00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:16,560
seems that they have the more that they

1132
00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:19,859
see basically

1133
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,859
yeah this is from Jeremy corbell's new

1134
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:24,960
weaponized podcast

1135
00:46:28,430 --> 00:46:27,300
oh actually it's from his uh his older

1136
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:28,440
Channel

1137
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:29,940
but yeah let me

1138
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:32,880
this object flew under controlled flight

1139
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:35,760
with intelligent control oh yeah across

1140
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:39,000
the screen from left to right

1141
00:46:42,829 --> 00:46:41,040
yeah so you see here

1142
00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:42,839
um so he caught this is the Baghdad

1143
00:46:47,809 --> 00:46:46,380
Phantom UAP yeah which was cool it was a

1144
00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:47,819
video as well

1145
00:46:51,950 --> 00:46:50,940
and and you know to me it looks like a

1146
00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:51,960
missile

1147
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,060
um or some sort of projectile you know

1148
00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:56,160
it looks like a cruise missile to me um

1149
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:57,960
you know I've had first glance in

1150
00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:00,359
uneducated glance it looks cigar shaped

1151
00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:02,940
like so many people talk about UFOs as

1152
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:05,880
well you know but what it is that's true

1153
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:08,640
yeah I guess it just longer

1154
00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:13,550
that was my first impression it didn't

1155
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,819
seem it didn't I didn't get the

1156
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:17,520
impression it was UAP but um yeah it's

1157
00:47:22,190 --> 00:47:20,520
too close to missiles but what I guess

1158
00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:22,200
why I brought it up the the point is is

1159
00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:23,880
what you'll see here is that has the

1160
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:27,260
same kind of striations you see

1161
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:29,099
uh

1162
00:47:32,809 --> 00:47:31,020
yeah I don't see a little there's a

1163
00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:32,819
little

1164
00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:35,400
and I can't see them here

1165
00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:37,020
I'm not sure where he's getting these

1166
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:38,760
missiles it's like a little cup and pace

1167
00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:41,160
of this object

1168
00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:43,319
copy paste copy paste copy paste if you

1169
00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:44,040
see

1170
00:47:48,349 --> 00:47:45,780
um yeah

1171
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,359
I'm not sure that's why they showed that

1172
00:47:52,430 --> 00:47:50,400
one in particular

1173
00:47:55,609 --> 00:47:52,440
because I think because this one came

1174
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:55,619
out and they want 100 to prove it this

1175
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,140
object flew yeah you see here it's

1176
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,180
easier to see here I see it really

1177
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:02,400
clearly yeah really clearly right and

1178
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,960
that that did look weird to me because

1179
00:48:09,230 --> 00:48:06,480
it was some sort of some sort of Trail

1180
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:09,240
some sort of wake Trail or something

1181
00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:09,900
um

1182
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:12,180
but they say it's a sensor artifact is

1183
00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:13,920
what uh

1184
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:16,500
that's what Kirkpatrick says

1185
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:18,540
now if this was some type of missile

1186
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:22,200
wouldn't they know that somehow or

1187
00:48:26,809 --> 00:48:24,119
whoever really who released that and how

1188
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:26,819
did Jeremy get a hold of it that's

1189
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,819
that's the uh he's this has happened a

1190
00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:32,160
few times it's that's pretty interesting

1191
00:48:37,069 --> 00:48:34,980
yeah it is quite interesting

1192
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:37,079
so this one was an interesting and one

1193
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:38,460
and I think they released it because of

1194
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:46,970
yeah all right well hey Chris thank you

1195
00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:49,260
so much it's been all a real pleasure

1196
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:51,720
and again I I if you're watching this

1197
00:48:55,550 --> 00:48:54,300
first stop and then jump well if you got

1198
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,560
this far then you've watched the whole

1199
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:57,119
thing but

1200
00:49:00,650 --> 00:48:58,619
don't forget to watch the first part

1201
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,660
over at Chris's Channel and the link

1202
00:49:05,450 --> 00:49:03,119
will be below thank you so much Chris

1203
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,460
yeah thanks yeah thanks Martin thanks

1204
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:07,440
for the collab that was it was fun and

1205
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,240
uh